Controlling God…

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In what ways do we control God – as religious institutions, governments, groups, families, individuals, calling control as faith and civilization? No wonder why atheism is growing…

19 thoughts on “Controlling God…

  1. Interesting idea for an extended post. Did you have other ideas about this? I think we control more than God through our perceptions of “God” or “It” or whatever we are perceiving.

    Our perceptions could be based on what we accept are true from other people’s ideas, writings, or accounts of that thing (like God, etc.) Our perceptions could also be based on direct experience.

    People are becoming atheists because people are mostly too caught up in everyday life to think of Divine subjects or subjects dealing with spirit/energy. I also believe that a Christian definition of what “God” is doesn’t work any more in our society.

    Even today’s Christian is individually redefining how they think about God because past or ancient concepts of God do not work now. I redefined a long time ago because of an experience… I call “God” the Omniverse.

    • Hi bluomni – I’m glad by your visit and for dropping some insights. ]

      “Did you have other ideas about this?”
      Not so clear to me what you mean.

      “I think we control more than God…”

      I beg to disagree with the comparison otherwise God could have sent angels before the Son would be hanged-to-death, a solid evidence of how God is passionate enough to give up human being’s obsession for control…

      “Our perceptions could be based on what we accept are true from other people’s ideas, writings, or accounts of that thing (like God, etc.) Our perceptions could also be based on direct experience.”

      Perceptions as indoctrinated and products of direct experience – this is fine an observation at least from one school of thought which is that the mind is a “tabula rasa,” and not to mention that there are other sources of knowledge, like Kant’s and Lonergan’s transcendentalism that could be accounted for in a general epistemological consideration. In other words, the idea of God could not simply be deduced from one epistemological school to the neglect of other contributing vistas.

      “People are becoming atheists because people are mostly too caught up in everyday life to think of Divine subjects or subjects dealing with spirit/energy.”

      Rabid atheists surely will find your argument a little haphazard. The grounding of atheism is actually more rational than practical, that is the denial of the human mind’s capacity to prove the existence of God based on scientific proofs. “Being caught up” in the practical affairs is just an outcome of this primary rational argument.

      “I also believe that a Christian definition of what “God” is doesn’t work any more in our society. Even today’s Christian is individually redefining how they think about God because past or ancient concepts of God do not work now. I redefined a long time ago because of an experience… I call “God” the Omniverse.”

      This is an interesting comment from you. If by individual redefining, one borders on opinion, then, such redefinition is nothing but an opinion that could easily be shrugged off by other fellow opinions. We cannot reduce God to merely an opinion. If their act of redefinition is merely an intellectual exercise for the sake of novelty, still, such exercise is anachronistic to negate God as a Being-in-relation-with-other-beings rather than a mental concept. The concept of “God” is solidly grounded in traditions, God unfolding through earthly time and experience. But even personal experience needs confirmation of its validity. Personal and communal prayer where God is allowed to be God rather than being constantly bombarded with our demands is one way to validate it. I believe the name “God” will stay because of its subliminal power. Perhaps, what will be altered will be our mode of relating with God.

  2. Nalungkot ako sa nakita ko… Hindi tuloy nakapag-isip ng mabuti sa tanong mo kapatid…

    Disturbing ang image… The photographer conveyed the message well… (pasensiya na, kakadeliver ko lang ng photgraphy workshop with friends, kaya photgraphy pa ang nasa isip ko)…

    Babalik ako…

  3. I agree with coolwaterworks, the image is kind of disturbing and yet eye catching in a way.
    Perfect use of image, in this post, it vividly conveyed your message to the readers.I always like to come here it’s like “a breathe of fresh air”

  4. I think i saw this pic somewhere tas may isa pang pic na pinapakita kung pano nila katayin.. i agree with CWW too, its very disturbing..

    I think this is somewhere in Europe.. let me refresh my memory..

  5. yup jorge in Europe… somewhere in Denmark or Norway.. meron pa mas morbid nyan…

    Anyway, personally I did not know I like to control God in so many ways in my life. Like He is all powerful and I’m His child so I deserve the best then I get depressed if I don’t get what I want… You have a way of answering my confusions… indeed God’s instrument in enlightening a lost one like me ^_^

  6. naiiyak talaga ako… sobra, kawawa naman ang mga balyena na yan, sayang sya Mr dfish…. nakakalungkot, diba sabi ni pope jp napupunta sa langit kahit ang mga hayop, sana nasa langit na din sila….

    ano po ba ang atheism?

  7. matagal nang hawak at pinapaikot ng tao sa kanyang palad ang Diyos…
    kasi alam nya na mahal siya nito kahit anuman ang gawin nya….
    siya kaya ang Diyos ng pag-ibig, pasensya, pagpapatawad, pagpapakumbaba….at mahaba pang listahan na di kayang sakupin ng parisukat at pabilog ng mundong ito…
    spoiled-brat madalas ang tao…
    di natututo…
    gusto lang mangamkam…
    pero di madalas marunong mag share…

    ooppsss….tao rin kaya ako…aray ko!

  8. Nagbabalik ako kapatid dahil I know may naiwan akong loose threads dito…

    Pero nang mabasa ko ang sinabi ni Kuya Blu, yun na ang simplified form ng gusto kong sabihin kaya hindi na ako magdadagdag…

    Great points on bluomni’s comment kapatid…

    Again, kalunos lunos ang mga dolphins…

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  10. I can’t stand looking at the picture for a long time. How sad!

    I believe we control God when we limit ourselves to what are taught to us. Religion is quite different from spirituality. And to be spiritual, we need to get rid of the teachings and see God in every word stone we step on, in every hair strand that falls, in every leaf that sways…in everything. And because many of us fail to see God this way, many of us become atheists.

    Hindi ko nabasa ang mga comments so kung redundant na ang idea ko, pasensya na.🙂

    • Wow, i love your musing Kit! Thank you for stressing the distinction between religion and spirituality. Yes, the most urgent spiritual challenge is to go deeper beyond being enslaved by old-worn teachings that are becoming destructive for example to our planets, like too much emphasis on the Genesis command and bequeathing human beings with the power to name non-human creatures and then justify exploitation in the name of this power…

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